Comments on: Does Facebook Really Own Your Data? NO! It’s About Openness

By: Diane at Lose-weight-for-life.com

Diane at Lose-weight-for-life.com — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:27:54 +0000

Illuminating post. Thanks for cutting through the outrage and uproar and lending some common sense to this discussion! Loved your YouTube video Facebook in 5 Mins a Day too. Diane at Lose-weight-for-life.com's last blog post.. Feb 28, Benefits of Yoga: The Perfect Exercise

By: Anne

Anne — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:07:53 +0000

Good post…if you don’t want it out there, don’t put it out there.

By: Rob W.

Rob W. — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:21:08 +0000

175 unread messages in just your Facebook Inbox – ouch!

By: Timothy

Timothy — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:27:44 +0000

all the content I load to Facebook is for public display anyway: I love it that my photos are propagated around the platform in the feeds.

By: Brian Campbell

Brian Campbell — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:00:27 +0000

Mari,
I was glad to see facebook listening to it’s members. It was also good that facebook members banded together and got noticed. Facebook has not been that concerned with what it’s users want, but now that the critical mass of 100 million+ people has been acquired they will not start to optimize the experience.
Aloha,
Brian Campbell

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By: Tim 'Gonzo' Gordon

Tim 'Gonzo' Gordon — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:24:59 +0000

A friend of mine found out that an old acquaintance had uploaded a rather embarrassing photo of her (college days) and tagged her name on it. Anyone can see it. But she didn’t upload it, and doesn’t want it there. Unfortunately, I doubt there is much she can do in this situation. Perhaps ask that it be taken down. But how do you take down someone else’s photo if they won’t do it?

By: Diane Saarinen

Diane Saarinen — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:17:16 +0000

Mark wrote: “Instead of defending them, Mari, a “Facebook evangelist” should be demanding accountability from those whose Gospel she’s chosen to preach.”

I totally agree with Mark. As of now, Facebook has temporarily reverted back to its old terms of service. This, I feel, was in response to public outcry and certainly not to the message of “trust them.”

I also am truly concerned about the fact that Mari hosted a public teleseminar in January to an audience of hundreds of artists without, from what I can gather, apparently not consulting any legal experts on the topic of ownership of one’s images on this platform of Facebook.

By: Molly

Molly — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:53:05 +0000

Mari,
I arrived here by a link in Madalyn Sklar’s blog on the issue. As usual both of you are calm heads in a tempest in a teapot.

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By: Madalyn Sklar

Madalyn Sklar — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:15:55 +0000

Great post, Mari! I'm all for sharing my information but the bottom line is I allow what I choose to be public. If Facebook or any other social media site retains ownership it's because I let them. People can decide to not use these sites. It's that plain and simple. I for one embrace these sites and do not lie awake at night wondering if someone takes my e-Books and resells them for their own profit. I also don't worry about Facebook taking my photos and selling them. Madalyn Sklar's last blog post.. Motivation will almost always beat mere talent!

By: Mark McElroy

Mark McElroy — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:20:57 +0000

Let’s make this simple: the issue here is OWNERSHIP.

This is not about openness. It’s not about sharing. It’s not about Facebook’s philosophy or intentions. It’s not about privacy. it’s not about trust.

The issue here is OWNERSHIP.

Who owns the photo you just posted to Facebook? By the current terms of service, they do — now and forever, without limit, world without end, amen.

Helping users share information doesn’t require a company to declare total, eternal, perpetual ownership of the information its users share … and that’s what Facebook has done, pure and simple.

Shifting the conversation to other issues — like privacy or access — helps muddy the water … but it does nothing to address what’s happened here.

Facebook has declared itself the eternal and perpetual owner of everything you share there. Instead of defending them, Mari, a “Facebook evangelist” should be demanding accountability from those whose Gospel she’s chosen to preach.